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Imperial Office,
Viking Empire of Stormark.

Ladies and Gentlemen,greetings:

Some people think al-Qaeda can only be defeated by a similar organization. They suggest that international paramilitary organizations should be established to "supplement" the efforts of governments worldwide to destroy the terrorist network.. I don't agree with that. IMHO it would only make things worse. What do you think?

Regards,

My thoughts used to involve a scenario in which the US would simply invade the Middle East, declare it a state, and build shopping malls, Applebees, Starbucks and Hard Rock Cafes everywhere.

That was back when those satans attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and I wanted nothing but the most profound kind of revenge imaginable, coupled with American domination over the entire earth.

These days my preferred solution to conquering Al-Queda is to pull out of the Middle East completely, entirely and finally and say. "Yes, your religion is the only true religion and your backwards, hideous manner of existence is entirely superior in every way to the manner in which the rest of us live and we're ever so sorry for attempting to bring democracy, enlightenment and modernity to your people and we've decided that we had better simply retreat to our own shores and wallow in our horrid and impious prosperity and liberty and leave all of you to your God-given right (and duty) to hate, mame and kill one another. Additionally, to ensure that only we American lucifers have to suffer our satanic way of life, we have decided to close our borders forever to all people attempting to escape your cherished Hell on Earth. We are encouraging our European and other Western friends to do likewise and giving them notice that we will no longer interfere in their affairs in any way, either, and that they are entirely on their own. In light of this, we recommend that they increase their defense spending."

That would be day one of the President Marchmain Administration. Day two would center around legislation compelling automakers to increase production of autos powered by alternative fuel sources coupled with increased drilling in Alaska in the meantime. Caribou, my ass.

Lord Marchmain,

If this is really what you think, thank the Gods you never will be President!

First off, isolationism doesn't work. The US tried to be isolationist until WWI came along, got caught up in that when Americans were killed, then went back to isolationism, and then WWII came along. Fortunately, then we finally learned that isolationsim doesn't work.

It sure as hell won't work now. Ok, so we close off our borders to immigrants. Do we keep Americans from leaving? If a group of Americans on vacation somewhere that should be safe is killed by terrorists, do we sit by and watch?

Do you really think that disengaging from the Middle East would stop terrorist attacks against American targets? Bull*&^%. For one thing, we've been in there too long for the terrorists to just suddenly say, "Oh, you're pulling out, ok, we'll leave you alone now." We'd still be infidels to them (assuming we're talking about Islamic fundamentalist terrorists).

I'm ALL for this. The only half-way intelligent thing you said in this post.

I think the dependence on oil needs to be broken. Before oil shortages drive up oil prices to ridiculous levels.

As for your

That's the most offensive f*&^ing thing you said in this whole thing. Ok, you want to kill off all this planet's wildlife, let's start with all...I can't even finish without being really nasty, so I'll just stop.

A sad sign of the times, I suppose, that the comment of mine which most offended Mr. McAlpin was that which showed slight regard for caribou. *sigh* What a world.

Mr. McAlpin, one would do better to simply respond to another's point with a counterpoint rather than become offended by that person's perspective. Scolding has no place in such a conversation. This is the problem with so many of the conversations I see in micronational forums. There's always someone who wants to derail the thread by showing everyone how aghast they are by viewpoint which they regard as unacceptably unorthodox. Silly.

A once committed globalist, I no longer see the need for our involvement amongst the ungrateful wide-world which cannot make-up its mind as to whether it needs us or doesn't want anything to do with us. Since we're damned if we do and damned if we don't, I say we make up their minds for them and don't. More resources for us.

The United States does far too much for everyone else and not enough for her own people. In my view, it's time to offer a great big "later" to the rest of the world, close our doors, and content ourselves with the improvement of human existence within the Western Hemisphere. There's plenty to be done in our own neck of the woods without wasting our resources on an ungrateful Europe, a hateful Middle East and a do-nothing Asia.

Immigration? Sure. But limited only to persons from squarely allied nations who bring a useful contribution to the table and no criminal records or past involvement in other sorts of mayhem and nonsense.

Can Americans go on vacation? Now who's being ridiculous?

Really, Mr. McAlpin.

Ok, I admit I was so infuriated by the caribou comment, I may not have...expressed myself succinctly.

I understand the impulse to isolationism. It sounds so much easier than trying to deal with all the difficult nations in the world.

The problem is, that it's not realistic. In today's world, with a global economy, global markets, global tourism, and global terror, we can't just close off our borders. The threats will still be out there. They aren't going to go away just because we pack up our toys and go home. They'll just come to us.

I stand by my earlier argument about American isolationism being shattered in the past by war. If we return to isolationism in today's world, the shattering of our isolationism will be much more deadly.

It is better for us to engage the rest of the world, to try to understand them and work with them. Is that easy? No, and sometimes it's damn frustrating. But it's the only realistic way to go.

I am of the opinion that it might not work. The resources would be too limited to what Westerners are used to. Also the idea sounds toom uch like that of the Delta Force.

How is this a sad sign of the times?

Because I value the lives of the animals and the pristine environment of the Alaskan wilderness over your ability (or mine, for that matter) to get cheap electricity to run your toaster?

Your comment on this makes clear that you have little regard for the environment and the natural world.

You don't want to preserve the environment, fine. Just don't expect me to support it. You can live in your cement covered smog filled world. I'd rather live in a world where there is clean air and wildlife.

Mr. McAlpin, in a word: chill.

good Afternoon To Everyone,

Oh, dear, we are all in quite a state, aren't we!

I think we should each retire to our own recliners, with a favourite beverage, and a nice warm blankie to cuddle up in, and don't forget Pooh, of course, and put on the stereo, and just stare out of the window for a good hour or so!

That might help to soothe the soul, don't you agree?

Oh, and yes, another thing"

I want each one of you to do me a huge favour, please:

PLEASE - do not, whatever you do, under any circumstances, smile.

Do NOT smile. No, no, don't even let the corners of your mouth turn up, even a
tiny bit. No, I said, not even one bit.

Now, no cheating!

There, now no smiling allowed!

Ah, I see a corner turning up! Oh, there's another corner!

See, I think you're beginning to smile!

Oh, go ahead - go on, smile, there you go, see you're smiling!

I knew you could do it - now smile all you want - see you're good at it!

Smiling even makes you look better, too!

TOLD YOU THAT YOU CAN SMILE!!!

Have a super splendiferous day,


Rosalie

Good Lord, where'd this bird come from? At any rate...

Robin Williams must have been reading my mind:

Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan. What we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.



Robin Williams' plan...(Hard to argue with this logic!)
I see a lot of people yelling for peace, but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's my plan:
The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in the affairs of other countries, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Noriega, Milosovich and the rest of those 'good ole boys.' We will never "interfere" again.
We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea and the Philippines. They don't want us there anyway. We would station troops at our borders and all! Allow no one to sneak through holes in the fence.
We will allow all illegal aliens 90 days to get their affairs together and leave this country and will give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. I'm sure France would welcome them.
All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days, unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.
No "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a "D" and it's back home, baby.
Energy wise, the US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient. This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.
Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries 10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)
If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement, or whatever they need. Besides, most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get little or nothing.
Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.
All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer.
The Language we speak is ENGLISH.....learn it...or LEAVE...
Now, ain't that a winner of a plan.
"The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses." She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'You want a piece of me?'" -

Now that's splendiferous.