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George Cruikshank, who as some of you may know is the Sydney-based "Emperor of Atlantium", seems to have been having more success in his publicity campaign. The latest newspaper to mention him (alongside the Hutt River Province and the Gay and Lesbian Kingdom of the Coral Sea - but no Hanover!) is the Daily Telegraph of the UK, in an article today, reprinted without permission below:

Mini-states Down Under are sure they can secede
By Nick Squires in Sydney
(Filed: 24/02/2005)

You won't find them on any map but, in the minds of their creators at least, they are as real as Brisbane or Bondi Beach.

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As Australia wrestles with the issue of whether to become a republic, it faces a constitutional challenge of its own as a growing number of mini-states declare their "independence".

The trend started in 1970 when a West Australian farmer, Leonard Casley, announced his property's secession as a protest over grain quotas, proclaiming himself Prince Leonard of Hutt River Province.

Prince Leonard and his wife, Princess Shirley, continue to run their tiny principality, issuing passports and welcoming thousands of tourists a year.

Australia boasts about 20 "nations", each undeterred by the fact that their existence has no legal foundation. Some are motivated by ideology, others by a grudge against the local council or a reluctance to pay taxes.

"There's a long tradition in Australia, borne of our convict heritage, of showing disrespect for authority," said His Imperial Majesty George II or George Cruikshank, a sales manager from Sydney. "We've inherited the English love of eccentricity."

Mr Cruikshank, 38, has set himself up as the Emperor of Atlantium, which consists of his one-bedroom apartment in the harbourside district of Potts Point. It claims nearly 1,000 "subjects" from Azerbaijan to Peru, with citizenship open to anyone prepared to fill out an application form and pay £3 for an embossed certificate.

A few miles away, on the north side of Sydney Harbour, lives Prince Paul of Wy, who seceded from his local council in November after 11 years of arguing over permission to build a driveway to his home.

He declared his property to be an independent principality on which he could build what he liked - an assertion yet to be tested.

The Gay and Lesbian Kingdom of the Coral Sea is founded on loftier principles and consists of a handful of tiny islands scattered over thousands of square miles of ocean off Queensland. It is billed as a "homeland" for gays and lesbians and was founded last year as a protest at the government's refusal to recognise same-sex marriages.

No one lives on the islets of the Coral Sea but the kingdom boasts a high court, chief justice and an absolute ruler, His Majesty Emperor Dale.

While some mini-states come and go, Hutt River Province celebrates its 35th anniversary this year. Princess Shirley, 76, claims to have government documents that, she says, recognise the province as a legal entity.

Constitutional lawyers beg to differ. "These states have no recognition or status under Australian law whatsoever," said Prof George Williams of the University of New South Wales.

"It's a nice way of thumbing your nose at authority but ultimately it's just a fantasy."
It's all Kerian's fault we arent in there.

He lives in Austraila, he should have alearted someone.
Quote:"It's a nice way of thumbing your nose at authority but ultimately it's just a fantasy."

OH THAT ENRAGES US!

Should We write him, and explain just how wrong headed he is? Perhaps even send Our goons over to put an exclaimation point on it?

Regards,
HM Alexander of All Hanover
You should write, if you can think of something good to say. E-mail it to the Telegraph and they might print it!

The site is http://www.telegraph.co.uk if you want to check it out.
DO IT, DO IT, DO IT, DO IT.

That makes me mad too, why do they call us a fantasy world, WHAT is fantasy about a constitutional monarchy, if that is fantasy then Britan should have unicorns and magicians.
Oh god, I am not even going to start about the fantasy thing, because if I do, none of you will still be alive by the time I finish!
I think all he was really saying was that independence, in territorial and legal terms, is a fantasy. I don't think people outside of micronations really get the idea of non-territoriality. Even the Sovereign Order of Malta has a castle to call its own.
Thomas GC,Feb 25 2005, 09:18 PM Wrote:I don't think people outside of micronations really get the idea of non-territoriality.
Agreed. However, I think it goes a little deeper than not understanding the concept of micronations and their sovereignty, and into a lack of understanding of political science concepts.
Quote:Sovereign Order of Malta has a castle to call its own.

Really? I was not aware of this. I was, however, under the impression that the Sovereign Order of the Knights of Saint John [Malta] lost their island of Malta which is now an independent republic, and that the government of the Order took refuge in Rome with the Pope. As far as I know, Malta may only possess a building in Rome. Surely not a castle. And to my knowledge they have no independent territory.
Carson - to be fair, I think micronationalists have kind of invented their own political science concepts in order to get 'round the fact that we just don't have any territory! We're a misunderstood minority. smilie


John, you sound like you know more about it than me, but I do seem to remember reading that they had a castle on Malta itself. I'll do a bit of research and see what I can find.

EDIT: As far as I can tell, you're right. But still, the point is the same: they have a building and courtyards "roughly twice the size of a standard tennis court" in Rome, to call their own. Some websites reckon their buildings in Rome are "officially independent territory" and others don't, it seems.
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